6 years ago #1
AntiqueRarity
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hello everyone, I'm new here...and very excited about my findings. I have a blog too, where you can see photos and read about what I've discovered so far through my research of the Hummel / Goebel figurine I'm speaking about; it will take you only a couple of minutes to read all of it: http://hummelantiquefigurine.blogspot.com/
I've also attached a photo with my post.
I have questions, like how do I find out exactly where this Hummel is from? Is it a prototype, a sample, a pre-production? I believe it is all these, but need more info. I am on the web hoping some fellow collectors can help me with this. I cannot afford an expert yet, so I'm hoping to get some donated advice.

Thanks to all!
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6 years ago #2
csmarshall
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I so far only see a Goebel figurine as I do not see any Hummel signature. And the best resource (read as: the only one to trust) would be Goebel. Had so much about 'experts' on Goebel/Hummel to fill a book so I don't trust them from here to the tip of my toes

Hold in mind that Goebel does not produce Hummels anymore (that is a completely different matter) and so Goebel is your contact, not the owner of the Hummel trademarks.

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6 years ago #3
AntiqueRarity
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Thank u for your feedback, it's appreciated. The reason I seem confused is in this copied article here: http://www.drloriv.com/appraisals/hummel.asp#gb

If you read it, can you give me your opinion or feedback? This is why I say "Goebel-Hummel", it seems that the Hummel signature started being stamped after this union between Goebel and Sister Hummel, but they were partners until Sister Hummel died just a few short years later...

Thank you again

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6 years ago #4
csmarshall
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Yuck! I might sound like a real pain in the butt, however that Dr.Lori is *far* away from reality or truth. Just as hint: I *never* trust people that don't get locations right.

"... In 1876, Franz Goebel started a porcelain firm near the town of Oeslauby, Germany ..."

Oeslauby? One small hop over to the Goebel homepage lets you easily check the following: the company was founded 1871 and in Oeslau, which today is part of Roedental.

"... While the trademark has changed over the years, every authentic M. I. Hummel figurine will have a Goebel stamp on its underside. ..."

That claim is incorrect since Goebel went into insolvency in 2006 and stopped producing Hummels in October 2008. Since February 2009 the additional mark is "Original M.I. Hummel (C)Manufaktur Roedental", where Manufaktur Roedenthal is the new owner of the trademarks, designs etc.

So much to the site.
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To the figures: all Hummels are marked as such, carrying an incised 'M.J.Hummel' either on the foot rim or on the base itself. All stories of 'unmarked Hummels' are utter nonsense. The contract between the convent and Goebel included a passage that EVERY Hummel had to be marked as such. Additionally there at one time was a statement from Goebel which also denied the existence of 'unmarked' Hummels after some members of the Hummel club (!) claimed to be in posession of such.

One does not have to be a professor in German law to know what would have happened if Goebel had broken the contract. Not only financially - Oeslau like most towns in Bavaria is roman-catholic down to the bone and cheating a convent would be like social suicide there! So 'unmarked' Hummels are a legend.

Which all boils down to one thing: Hummels were marked as such from 1935 to 2008 and as far as I known from the new owner, the incised 'M.J.Hummel' will be kept as dominant mark of authenticy.

Blimey, long post!

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6 years ago #5
AntiqueRarity
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Thank you for your information and blimey long post, , I rather like long posts if there is good info, which I believe you've provided ! So now I know in fact that this is a William Goebel figurine as there is no Hummel incised mark, but the WG is on the bottom.
Thanks again, really appreciate you taking the time out to help me with this.
Cheers!

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1 year ago #6
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When someone calls them M. J. Hummels instead of M.I. Hummel it is the first clue that they don't know what they are doing.

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1 year ago #7
marveldcollector
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I second that! I guess some people read it differently because of the way the "I" was inscribed on each hummel.

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1 year ago #8
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I have a dozen or so hummel vintage figurines & I have 2 collector books I will look to find this sweet southern belle, she certainly appears to b hummel so btfl! With no markings probably priceless as may be a n error in production at that time?

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1 year ago #9
Marra M
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Hi there

Kindly attach clear photos so that members can help you better.

Do not forget to attach close-up of the markings that you find on this vintage figurine that you are referring to.

Thanks!

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1 year ago #10
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Here is a great website where you can get all the information about MI Hummel marking and authencity of the figurines. dasbumblebeeshaus
Every month they publish articles about Hummel. It calls eLetter. Right now they are publishing about the marking and period of production of it. YOu will get great, authentic information about it. The owners of the website are very nice and extremely knowlegable people. They are always eager to help people about Hummel. If you wish give them a call about your enquiry

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